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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:35:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:I remember the good old days of the chromosome build where everyone was using different types of weapons. Now this game makes me feel like I'm playing halo in terms of weapons. That's one reason why I can't stand halo's multiplayer. The infamous battle rifle or DMR was the cream of the crop. If you weren't using any of those two weapons you would puting your self at a serious disadvantage.
I'm starting to get that same feeling again with dust. TAC AR's are ruining the gunplay in this game. I have tried real hard to not succumb to this skilless weapon(especially if you have a mod controller). But I will not. I pride myself too much to go into easy mode. I also notice large corps use these weapons exclusively. There's no challenge if you use these and I consider anyone who uses it as a crutch.
The TAC AR is blatantly OP. Or all the other weapons are UP. If players say CCP is catering to the "halo,COD,BF" crowd and you use this weapon you are basically a hypocrite.
The game is starting to lose it's fun factor because of this style of play imo. Now all I try to do is survive a match let alone get a kill when I'm put up against a platoon of TAC AR users.
For all the naysayers that are probably going to burn this thread to the ground and tell me either HTFU, STFU or GTFO. I don't care. I'm writing this post in hopes that CCP or a CPM listen to the reasoning of an experienced FPS player who wanted something different but seeing the same kitten all over again.
I believe TAR is going to be hit with the nerf bat soon. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:53:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:lolvariety
only weapon that matters is the Tact. AR. Then you answered my point. Halo like gunplay. Tact. Duvolle - Has the most range in AR - Most dmg - Highest ROF - Best Hipfire - highest DPS Why would people use anything else
Exactly. Luckily this situation won't persist much longer. |
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Posted - 2013.05.23 18:09:00 -
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The Black Art wrote:Jin Robot wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jin Robot wrote:I hope they drop the TAC nerf on June 1st. One day after last respec opportunity, it would be delicious. So? Assault rifles will never die. You are in denial if you think the TAC nerf wont cause a river of tears. Taking away OP toys will create tantrums. Damage isn't why people use it, it's all about the range. Unless they buff other weapons' ranges, Tac AR will always be king. NO It's not like Sniper Rifle is king in Dust now. It's the combo of DPS, range, and ease of use. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:41:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Please stop whining about the god damned Tactical AR's they require skill to use, the reason you are dying all the time is PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN YOU.
God, man up.
EDIT: And before you start shouting about how I don't want my TAR nerfed, I don't even use it. I use a combo of Sniper/Scrambler and GEK across my classes. hahahah, lol.
Oh wait. Serious?
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:55:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Please stop whining about the god damned Tactical AR's they require skill to use, the reason you are dying all the time is PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN YOU.
God, man up.
EDIT: And before you start shouting about how I don't want my TAR nerfed, I don't even use it. I use a combo of Sniper/Scrambler and GEK across my classes. hahahah, lol. Oh wait. Serious? You know what f-ck it, lets just remove every weapon in the game and we can all equip our characters with Cotton Candy Bats and Bra's and run about complimenting each other, and telling each other how much we love the fact that not only has every weapon that was ever worth a damn nerfed, they were removed all together. Just because players don't use the god damned obscure weapons in the game, is not indicative of skill, on the other hand, the fact all you goons whine about it, is indicative about how ******* sh-t the majority of the playerbase it. Enjoy getting blasted with a TAR and ragequitting, just take your death and accept it.
I'm sorry, but if everyone uses a weapon, that is an indication of it's OPness. Also, the TAR is painfully easy to use. Point, pull the trigger. That's pretty much the whole story, right?
The problem with the TAR is it's DPS at range. Simple as that. If it was actually difficult to use, that'd be one thing, but it isn't, thus, the ROF combined with the range combined with the ease of use makes it OP. Personally, I think it's even be fine if it had it's ranged DPS if it had some massive short range nerf like the LR, but it doesn't. It's too good at all ranges, that makes it the universally good weapon, the one weapon to rule them all, and by definition an easy weapon. TBH, all ARs are pretty easy though.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:02:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Please stop whining about the god damned Tactical AR's they require skill to use, the reason you are dying all the time is PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN YOU.
God, man up.
EDIT: And before you start shouting about how I don't want my TAR nerfed, I don't even use it. I use a combo of Sniper/Scrambler and GEK across my classes. hahahah, lol. Oh wait. Serious? You know what f-ck it, lets just remove every weapon in the game and we can all equip our characters with Cotton Candy Bats and Bra's and run about complimenting each other, and telling each other how much we love the fact that not only has every weapon that was ever worth a damn nerfed, they were removed all together. Just because players don't use the god damned obscure weapons in the game, is not indicative of skill, on the other hand, the fact all you goons whine about it, is indicative about how ******* sh-t the majority of the playerbase it. Enjoy getting blasted with a TAR and ragequitting, just take your death and accept it. I'm sorry, but if everyone uses a weapon, that is an indication of it's OPness. Also, the TAR is painfully easy to use. Point, pull the trigger. That's pretty much the whole story, right? The problem with the TAR is it's DPS at range. Simple as that. If it was actually difficult to use, that'd be one thing, but it isn't, thus, the ROF combined with the range combined with the ease of use makes it OP. Personally, I think it's even be fine if it had it's ranged DPS if it had some massive short range nerf like the LR, but it doesn't. It's too good at all ranges, that makes it the universally good weapon, the one weapon to rule them all, and by definition an easy weapon. TBH, all ARs are pretty easy though. Thank god, someone with at least half a story to support his accusations, you're mistaking a strong weapon, for an overpowered one, wanna talk over powered, lets talk Forge Guns, Nova Knives, Flaylocks...
Sorry, but I'm not making a mistake here. None of the weapons you speak of are OP. they all have drawbacks. Flaylock, relatively short range, small clip, limited splash. Nova Knives, melee, nuff said. Forge Guns, slow ROF, limited clip, only available to heavy, thus more difficult aiming, no ADS.
The TAR though, has none of these issues. It has good ROF, high DPS, long range, large clip, ADS, available on any suit, long ass range, aand...easy to use.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:51:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Buster Friently wrote:
Sorry, but I'm not making a mistake here. None of the weapons you speak of are OP. they all have drawbacks. Flaylock, relatively short range, small clip, limited splash. Nova Knives, melee, nuff said. Forge Guns, slow ROF, limited clip, only available to heavy, thus more difficult aiming, no ADS.
The TAR though, has none of these issues. It has good ROF, high DPS, long range, large clip, ADS, available on any suit, long ass range, aand...easy to use.
Camp at a Drop Uplink with at least an Advanced Level Nova Knife, you're going to one hit, maybe two hit everyone you encounter, I've just seen it done. Forge Guns, fire into a crowd and you're going to at least take two of them down, Flaylocks, get a direct hit, and it's instakill, plus splash damage to any of his buddies around him. TAR, AT LEAST half a clip expired actually trying to hit something in a frantic CQC firefight, and unless you're extremely methodical with longer range shots, you're going to be missing him by a hair.
You describe the situation that favors nova knives the most. That's not OP, that's a niche. The TAR is too good under too many circumstances, that is OP.
For a reference to where I'm coming from : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=782741#post782741 |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.05.23 23:58:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Raze galder wrote:Buster Friently wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:I remember the good old days of the chromosome build where everyone was using different types of weapons. Now this game makes me feel like I'm playing halo in terms of weapons. That's one reason why I can't stand halo's multiplayer. The infamous battle rifle or DMR was the cream of the crop. If you weren't using any of those two weapons you would puting your self at a serious disadvantage.
I'm starting to get that same feeling again with dust. TAC AR's are ruining the gunplay in this game. I have tried real hard to not succumb to this skilless weapon(especially if you have a mod controller). But I will not. I pride myself too much to go into easy mode. I also notice large corps use these weapons exclusively. There's no challenge if you use these and I consider anyone who uses it as a crutch.
The TAC AR is blatantly OP. Or all the other weapons are UP. If players say CCP is catering to the "halo,COD,BF" crowd and you use this weapon you are basically a hypocrite.
The game is starting to lose it's fun factor because of this style of play imo. Now all I try to do is survive a match let alone get a kill when I'm put up against a platoon of TAC AR users.
For all the naysayers that are probably going to burn this thread to the ground and tell me either HTFU, STFU or GTFO. I don't care. I'm writing this post in hopes that CCP or a CPM listen to the reasoning of an experienced FPS player who wanted something different but seeing the same kitten all over again. I believe TAR is going to be hit with the nerf bat soon. I'm pretty sure the way things are going its not going to be a bat more like a truck Because you idiots keep whining.
One person's whine is another's justice. And, honestly, if you can't admit that the TAR is currently OP, well..calling other people idiots is maybe a bad move for you.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.05.24 00:03:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Raze galder wrote: I'm pretty sure the way things are going its not going to be a bat more like a truck
Because you idiots keep whining. One person's whine is another's justice. And, honestly, if you can't admit that the TAR is currently OP, well..calling other people idiots is maybe a bad move for you. Jesus ******* christ, get a ******* life and stop bitching about the god damned TAR, it's not over powered, you idiots just want a clusterw-nk with the people that agree with you, about nerfing every god damned weapon there ever was. Does it make your e-peen feel good? It's not overpowered, you're just a ******* terrible player.
Thanks for making my point. |
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